1b. Re: Rules\Guide for converting AD&D monsters to DragonQuest
    Posted by:  igmod@comcast.net arielifan
    Date: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:16 am ((PDT))

There is an enlarged beastiary in the files. Not D&D, or only a few, but a lot of normal and mythical ones. I've dug up every DQ monster I could find added in adventures not only produced by DQ, but other DQ sites. There is a fairly easy way to translate, just compare D&D monsters with DQ ones. 

~Jeffery~ 

Yes, I found that and may try to use that as a guide to convert some of the other monsters, as you and others have suggested.
I also found a reference to a cross-over module, The Shattered Statue, that had a few creatures in both D&D and DQ stats that I hope will provide some guidance.  And, again as others have mentioned, I may be remembering the Thieves World crossover stats, but not as they actually were.  I tend to remember everything related to DQ with a little bit of favorable nostalgia, since I haven't played in years.  Maybe when we all finally get to retirement homes, there'll be time enough for us all to game all day long!

In any case, I'll check all the resources suggested and see what I can come up with, then, of course, I'll share it.

Thanks again!
Jim

1c. Re: Rules\Guide for converting AD&D monsters to DragonQuest
    Posted by:  leckart4@comcast.net lonny_eckert
    Date: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:28 am ((PDT))

Jim, 

We have worked up some new monster and reworked others. You are welcome to join us on the GMs list. I can provide you with a list and a few of the reworked monsters. 

Some want to save for the adventure we are working on so they remain a mystery to players. 

If I recall correctly, there may have been some conversion guidance in the Thieves World product? 

Lonny,

I'll definitely join that group, even though I haven't played in years.  And, as I mentioned, I found some possible resources that will help in the conversion.  Either way, whatever I eventually create, I will definitely share. 

Thank you for the help, and suggestions,
Jim

Anyone a member of DQfiles?  I'd like to join, but can't seem to get their attention...

just started up a new gaming group and wanted to have options for them to read resources and get familiar with our beloved game system.

Thanks,

Jeff

I have looked high and also low for a discussion about either an archmage or a skill to use more than one college.  

Two questions:

1) is there a thread or doc about it?

2) have you tried it? 

3) (bonus) Do you recommend it?

New player in my campaign from D&D world that is trying to manipulate the system...

Thanks in advance.

I'm experimenting with a means to do that.  Characters uses a Ritual of Purification (32.2) to move between one college to another they have learned.  It also needs a focus: orb, staff, scepter or rod (akin to Runic Q-2.)  Also can't learn opposite colleges (Thaumaturgies vs. Enties, Air vs. Earth, Water vs. Fire, etc.)

~Jeffery~

On March 19, 2018 at 4:31 PM "stauron@yahoo.com [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I have looked high and also low for a discussion about either an archmage or a skill to use more than one college.  

Two questions:

1) is there a thread or doc about it?

2) have you tried it? 

3) (bonus) Do you recommend it?

New player in my campaign from D&D world that is trying to manipulate the system...

Thanks in advance.

For start up characters I would suggest the DQ New Zealand group, though I don't agree with their changes to the colleges.

~Jeffery~

On March 19, 2018 at 5:12 PM "Martin Gallo martimer@mindspring.com [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

1) Probably,

2) Yes, once. It was a disaster. The character could accomplish nothing and fell behind the power curve.

3) No.

Ancillary opinion: There is an article in one of the Dragon Magazines called The Warrior Option (or something similar) that I also recommend not using. It might work when introducing a new character into an ongoing campaign but it really imbalances things if the rest of the party is playing by the rules.

On Mar 19, 2018, at 6:31 PM, stauron@yahoo.com [DQ-RULES] <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I have looked high and also low for a discussion about either an archmage or a skill to use more than one college.  

Two questions:

1) is there a thread or doc about it?

2) have you tried it? 

3) (bonus) Do you recommend it?

New player in my campaign from D&D world that is trying to manipulate the system...

Thanks in advance.

 

I forgot that this group existed. I was surprised by a recent email. It was then that I came to doubt: what is the purpose of this group? I assure you it is a sincere doubt. The goal is to produce an Open Game / OGL version of the DQ or just produce new materials and suggest changes to the rules?

Thank you,

Daniel.

I'm in Corvallis, Oregon and I've been GMing DQ for close to 40 years.  My group currently consists of 5 (including myself.)  One of my members sometimes GM to give me a break and help me see things from the players side.  How often we play depends on work/family schedules.

We discuss rule changes to keep things from being too unbalanced.  The current character cast has been operating for about 13 game years; 2 from the start and various additions and retirements since.

~Jeffery~

~Jeffery~

On March 21, 2018 at 8:31 AM "Kyle Hall kyle.s.hall01@gmail.com [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

hzark,

I have a question completely unrelated to DQ rules, if I may.

Years ago I remember reading a bunch of posts form DQ players in New Zealand.  They created in me the impression that New Zealand has a large number of gamers who not only play DragonQuest, but who talk with each other and share rules changes.  Is this true?  How large a DQ community do you have?

I'm just curious, as I live here in Washington State in the USA and my entire DQ community consists of 6 - 8 people.  Only in the past couple of years has anyone beside me become will to GM a game.

Thanks,

Kyle

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 3:48 AM, hzark10@aol.com [DQ-RULES] <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The New Zealand group has been around for years. Any changes are suggested, proofed, done on a trial basis before finally accepted.  

That being said, they are one mind-set and others may find their changes not to their liking.  However, their changes have been discussed and tried before becoming "official".  In many ways, they can be considered house rules. And when discussing changes to the rules, you may also run into the same agreements/disagreements with others who have played or are currently doing so.

The warrior (non-mage) suggestion I have used and continue doing so.  I find the warrior with the Mind college to be very powerful as well..

Multiple colleges would be an area that should be discussed.  

In many ways, this parallels 7th Sea with their sword schools.  One of our players never takes a sword school, just increase his beginning stats.  Most campaigns never got to the point where players reached journeyman level, let alone master level, and we watched him just get better and better as the rest of us struggled to keep up.

I also like the idea of an open-gaming version of the game.  

hzark10@aol.com

 

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Thanks,

Kyle

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If any of you had not heard, Roger Thorm has recently opened discussion on DQ Open Source at his Google Plus Community site and

https://plus.google.com/communities/117735679361185257091

at his Antherwyck site:

https://rthorm.wordpress.com/2018/03/04/open-dq-sections-and-contents/

On March 20, 2018 at 11:11 AM "danieldiasr@gmail.com [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

I forgot that this group existed. I was surprised by a recent email. It was then that I came to doubt: what is the purpose of this group? I assure you it is a sincere doubt. The goal is to produce an Open Game / OGL version of the DQ or just produce new materials and suggest changes to the rules?

Thank you,

Daniel.

 

 

Do any of you have rules about negotiation or persuasion?  WP doesn't quite cut it.  Apart from the various spells and charms, does Troubadour, Courtesan or Military Strategist  contribute?

I'm trying to figure out a if a new skill is called for.

WP is a characteristic, not a skill.

On April 10, 2018 at 11:02 AM "Gabriel Martinez piscuy@hotmail.com [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi,

In my opinion, Troubadour and Courtesan definetly contribute, like merchant (Optional in a part books).

WP is the skill, plus something of Proffesion's rank, less difficulty level.

Regards.

Gabriel.

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Asunto: [DQ-RULES] Persuasion skill

 

 

 

Do any of you have rules about negotiation or persuasion?  WP doesn't quite cut it.  Apart from the various spells and charms, does Troubadour, Courtesan or Military Strategist  contribute?

 

I'm trying to figure out a if a new skill is called for.

 

 

IMO, no.  Mil.Sci involves nothing about negotiations.

~Jeffery~

On April 10, 2018 at 1:35 PM "stauron@yahoo.com [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

In a combat scenario, before you have actually attacked, wouldn't Mil Sci affect your ability to negotiate?  

All of those have to deal with whom the Mil. Sci. has trained.  It has nothing to do with persuasion, i.e. to persuade someone who hasn't trained with the Mil. Sci. to surrender.  It is the GM's decision if the "bad guys" surrender.  The military situation determines if a group surrenders, not if the other side is persuasive.  It doesn't happen in the tactical situation.

~Jeffery~

On April 10, 2018 at 2:42 PM "stauron@yahoo.com [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Prevent fleeing, perceive tactics, temporarily increase WP and increase initiative.  All somewhat related to "if you surrender now, no harm will come to you"

That is a different situation that has been presented earlier.  Roleplay it out.  I wouldn't resort to WP, some skill or DR.  IMO, the GM in this situation is to factor in what the "bad guys" know and what the party/leadership communicate to the "bad guys".

My current party group does that quite often.  Also depends on the races involved.  One party member has Mil. Sci., Troubador and Namer.  Preferring to chase the bad guys away or Compelling them away, and in some cases they have chosen to pardon (not serve in a position where they fight the party) them so they don't have to deal with prisoners or execute the "bad guys".  One of my players is on this list, he may share his views on roleplaying out negotiations.

There is a diplomat skill in Poor Brendan's Almanac.  Among the sub-skills is negotiate.

~Jeffery~

On April 10, 2018 at 2:45 PM "stauron@yahoo.com [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

So Jeffery, what would use to determine the negotiations between two war parties?  I have scenario coming up with a captain under siege that the party can convince to surrender and come out or have to fight them. Would you just compare WP or something else?  Is there a call for the Negotiator as a new skill?

The other day, for reasons not related directly to gaming, I went looking for DragonQuest-related information about everyone's favorite undead necromancers, the lich.  I was shocked to find literally nothing at all about liches in either the official literature or any variant or additional rules.

Has anyone ever worked up DQ stats for a lich?  I recently found a digital copy of the Shattered Statue, so I have some decent guidelines for converting an old-school AD&D lich, to give me a head start, but before I messed with that at all, I thought I'd ask if anyone else had already done it.

Thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks!

Jim

I did work up a DQ lich.  I'm at the hospital at the moment, but when I get home I'll upload it to the files.  My current group has had to deal with it.

~Jeffery~

On June 8, 2018 at 9:48 AM "ryumaou@sbcglobal.net [DQ-RULES]" <DQ-RULES@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The other day, for reasons not related directly to gaming, I went looking for DragonQuest-related information about everyone's favorite undead necromancers, the lich.  I was shocked to find literally nothing at all about liches in either the official literature or any variant or additional rules.

Has anyone ever worked up DQ stats for a lich?  I recently found a digital copy of the Shattered Statue, so I have some decent guidelines for converting an old-school AD&D lich, to give me a head start, but before I messed with that at all, I thought I'd ask if anyone else had already done it.

Thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks!

Jim

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The other day, for reasons not related directly to gaming, I went looking for DragonQuest-related information about everyone's favorite undead necromancers, the lich.  I was shocked to find literally nothing at all about liches in either the official literature or any variant or additional rules.

Has anyone ever worked up DQ stats for a lich?  I recently found a digital copy of the Shattered Statue, so I have some decent guidelines for converting an old-school AD&D lich, to give me a head start, but before I messed with that at all, I thought I'd ask if anyone else had already done it.

Thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks!

Jim

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